In December 2024, the Order of the Arrow (OA) released its 2025-2027 business plan. This is OA’s latest drop in a reform plan where it allegedly will abandon 110 years of cultural theft. Its new vision is to be a retention tool for high school-aged youth.
It is time to abandon this failed strategy. Guided by Move Forward: Save Scouting, BSA should address its retention problem with improved programs. This makes OA’s new direction redundant. BSA should repurpose OA’s beneficial elements and leave behind its racist legacy.
OA’s inadequate plan: papering over the babysitting regime
OA’s latest proposal papers over BSA’s failed approach to older-youth engagement.
BSA knows its babysitting regime is a failure. That’s why it uses shiny objects to distract older youth from the chores. These shiny objects are high adventure, camp staff, and OA. While high adventure and staff are valuable opportunities, once done, the high schooler returns to babysitting chores.
Despite 115 years of this experiment–the babysitting regime and shiny objects–BSA has never addressed the “older boy youth problem”. Older-youth retention is as poor as always.
OA’s plan is to prop up BSA’s failed babysitting regime. We need a better approach.
OA still cannot be trusted
Even if its latest initiative was viable, OA’s trustworthiness deficits remain unresolved. It remains unwilling to genuinely reform or move away from key aspects of its racist legacy.
First, I need to clarify the two parts of OA’s tribal mockery:
Ceremonies: This refers to the pretendian parodies OA uses for its core rites, like the call-out ceremony seen at camporees and summer camps.
AIA: This is “American Indian Activities”, allegedly authentic employment of tribal culture. Rarely done under tribal supervision, it’s usually cultural theft.
Secret tribal agreements
Starting January 1, 2026, OA’s American Indian Activities (AIA) must occur under supervision of a Native American tribe. However, OA permits undisclosed tribal agreements that nobody will verify.1 This wink to cultural thieves aligns with OA’s longstanding problems with secrecy.
Once you’re in OA long enough, you’ll hear of local fairy tales about some mysterious Native American who “blessed” a lodge’s cultural theft many decades ago. As you ask for specifics, you typically find Canadian girlfriends: “I wish you could meet my Canadian girlfriend, But you can’t because she is in Canada.”2
Illustration of OA’s Canadian girlfriend problem.
Given OA’s 110 years of open cultural theft and dishonesty about its intent to change (see the rest of this article), there’s no reason to believe that OA at its word. Secret agreements cannot be distinguished from endemic Canadian-girlfriend fairy tales.
Taking 4 years to rewrite children’s fantasy fiction (ceremonies)
Still unaddressed is the worst part of OA’s tribal mockery, the ceremonies. This includes the ceremony that most Scouts aged 10 and up eventually see–the call out–and ceremonies only viewed by insiders, such as those relating to Ordeal, Brotherhood, and Vigil.
Allegedly, OA is rewriting these ceremonies to remove the mockery of tribes. But this lacks credibility.
First, this rewriting started in fall 2021. As of press time, the rewriting has been going on for 3.5 years. Allegedly, they will be released in July 2025. That’s almost four years!
It does not take 4 years to revise children’s fantasy fiction! In my spare time, I could define new themes in a few evenings and churn out revised scripts in three more weeks. One month! But OA needs 48 months?
Even worse, around two years ago, a group led by the founder of OA’s elangomat system offered the OA national committee fully revised ceremonies that have no cultural theft. OA’s response? Pound sand.
OA, where’s these theft-free ceremonies? You have nothing to show after 3.5 years?
This isn’t adding up.
Still recommending cultural theft in costumes
The United States pivoted to tribal self-determination in the 1950s through the 1970s. Part of this involves respect, allowing tribes to own their own customs.
Many decades after the pivot, OA still recommends mocking tribes with cultural theft. For example, when acting out its phony legend, OA wants actors’ pretendian antics to be done in “American Indian attire”, recommending that by putting it first in a list! The first-in-a-list status is not couched beyond weak “should” language, mere recommendations that lodges may freely ignore.
This language could have been updated years ago. That it’s still present and prominent in 2025 speaks volumes.
Truck-sized hole: keep all the stolen, parody names!
“A name pronounced is the recognition of the individual to whom it belongs. He who can pronounce my name aright, he can call me, and is entitled to my love and service.” -Henry David Thoreau3
“Remember that a person’s name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language.” -Dale Carnegie4
“Proper names are poetry in the raw. Like all poetry they are untranslatable.” -W. H. Auden5
“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.” -Confucius6
“Your name is your brand, and your brand is your reputation. Protect it wisely.” -Richard Branson
Your name is your essence, your brand. Your name defines you in crucial ways.
When an organization’s name evokes a theme, that theme is tied to the organization.
Nearly all lodge names use or approximate Native American names or reference Native American concepts. OA’s own names cements its theme, a continued commitment to Native American parody and tribal mockery!
How many of these lodges sought permission from the tribe who really owns the name? Considering OA’s 110-year-old habit of stealing Native American culture for its own profit, it’s unlikely we’ll find many.
An example: Onerahtokha Lodge
In fall 2024, a new lodge was formed in Virginia, Onerahtokha Lodge. Onerahtokha is a Mohawk word7, meaning the time of budding. Contemporarily, it refers to the month April8. It’s also used as a name.9
Did this lodge get permission to use this name? Unlikely. Again, given OA’s pattern, it’s reasonable to assume the word is stolen. Onerahtokha Lodge has never advanced a case that it sought permission.
The St. Regis Mohawk Tribe would be the only Mohawk people10 that meets OA’s standard for a Mohawk tribe that a lodge may work with.11 I have asked this tribe’s public relations staff for a comment. As of press time, they have only acknowledged my inquiry and shared that I am one of several asking them, but they did not provide evidence of collaboration. (I do not blame them! Several Native Americans and their allies have cautioned me that tribes may have little desire to work with an organization defined by a century of cultural theft. If the St. Regis Mohawk Tribe responds, I’ll update this article.)
I also note that the historic territory of the Mohawk people appears to be well north of this lodge. Altogether, we have no basis to dispute that this lodge did the normal OA thing, stealing the culture of a distant tribe.
Here’s what’s jarring: National knew about this!12 OA’s Eastern Region Merger Team, part of the national organization, guided this lodge’s formation. Certainly OA’s national representatives would have been aware of OA’s prevailing guidance, released in December 2023, of “For OA lodges using or planning to use American Indian traditions—but not yet engaging with local tribal leadership—the national OA committee expects them to establish these relationships before proceeding with existing or new programs.”13 It’s hard to see how stealing a word from a distant tribe–the reasonable assumption we have no way to rebut–meets the spirit of this guidance.
Onerahtokha Lodge, if I am wrong, if you gained permission from a tribe to use this word, you’re invited to show the receipts. I’ll happily celebrate that here.
For more fun, look at one of this lodge’s chapter names: “Shawanogi”. A Shawnee word meaning “Southerners”, Westerners corrupted it to “Shawnee”, which became the tribe name.14Did this lodge get permission from the Shawnee Tribe to use its word?15
OA is not stopping cultural theft
Let’s recap:
OA lodges and chapters will keep naming themselves with stolen or spoofed Native American words.
OA’s four-year timeline to rewrite its children’s fantasy fiction is absurd.
OA allows secret tribal agreements that nobody can verify.
With these, OA makes clear that it wishes to perpetuate its cultural thievery.
A better plan: abolish OA, repurpose some of it
Instead of papering over BSA’s poor program design, we need to move beyond it. This means redesigning our main programs so that they are relevant to middle schoolers, high schoolers, and young adults. Once that is done, OA’s new mission is obsolete.
Also, per above and per my prior update, OA is unrepentant, refusing to move past its shameful legacy.
OA has one morally straight path forward: abolishment. We can salvage its useful parts towards proper ends in line with Move Forward: Save Scouting. This means:
End all Native American-themed programming in BSA. OA’s Native American-themed programming is cultural theft, for OA’s profit.16 Going forward, BSA respects tribal ownership of their own customs and rejects the white-savior trope that tribes depend on, benefit from, or are expected to appreciate outsiders employing their culture. Those interested in exploration of Native American culture, beyond the Indian Lore merit badge (which is the product of a good collaboration!), must pivot to “morally straight”: Collaborate directly with tribes or participate in powwows, on your own. (Note: When conducted in collaboration with tribes, council or unit activities are fine. So are episodic national activities that support other programs. But formal, enduring national activities that use Native American culture must end.)
Discontinue OA’s camp promotions. These were always dumb, just dispassionate youth going through the paces. I did them as a kid, and I’ve seen them as an adult. They have no value.
Transition all local, section, and national OA events, training programs, and officers to Venturing. OA’s events are oriented towards high schoolers. They will be continued under Venturing, led by Venturing Officers Associations. In some cases, they will be new-to-Venturing events. For example, I suspect OA’s section conclaves will transition to Venturing territory events. In other cases, their strengths will be merged with existing programs, especially on the council level. High-school-aged OA officers will find new homes on council, territory, and national VOAs.
Transition all young-adult officers and members to a new Rovers program. They will have ground-level opportunities to kickstart a new Scouting opportunity for post-high-school through age 25.
Transition camp service to a new society. This new society will be freed of cultural theft and OA’s woo woo. It will be open access, no longer gated by a popularity contest. The society may or may not be formal or governed on a national level; it could just be a brand that local and national-high-adventure service activities run under.
Ironically, creating a new service society fulfills the original goal of Order of the Arrow:
[OA’s] purpose, as a Local Council activity, was to single out, from various Troops, outstanding campers with the service spirit, and bring them into a fellowship to improve and further camping.
With these changes, OA will make the ultimate gift to the movement, realizing its original goal while helping assure Scouting’s future.
Footnotes
Per OA’s National AIA Transition Plan and Timeline, agreements are fully managed by councils. Nobody outside of councils reviews the agreements. Councils simply check a box on a form each year to signify whether an agreement exists. ↩︎
“American Indian Activities in the Order of the Arrow at 2024 NOAC“, Order of the Arrow, December 22, 2023. It mentions “574 federally recognized tribes/Indian nations across the United States” as who “lodges should seek approval from…to use [tribal culture] and ensure that our members understand their proper context.” While later documents expanded allowed tribes to include state-recognized tribes, it appears that the federally recognized Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe is the only Mohawk tribe in the USA. ↩︎
Ibid. That announcement was created by the national organization and sent shockwaves through OA, so it’s reasonable to assume that it was well known. Someone acting in good faith would have sought permission from a tribe before using that tribe’s word for a lodge name. As no agreement with any tribe has been publicly conveyed by this lodge, and given OA’s 110 years of theft, it’s quite likely this was simply more cultural theft. ↩︎
The other three chapter names are fine. One is a portmanteau of the names of counties it encompasses. The other two are named after local rivers. While those local rivers use Native American names, this is a great case of “nothing is perfectly black and white.” It is generally acceptable to use local place names that are not not in dispute. ↩︎
There are notable exceptions, like local collaboration with Florida’s Seminole tribe, but these are rare. Nearly all of BSA’s employment of tribal customs is inauthentic or for BSA’s own profit, divorced from a relationship with or benefit to tribes. ↩︎
Mr. Murray was a charter member of BSA’s National Executive Board. When he wrote this book, he was its chairman. ↩︎
High schoolers do not belong in a program built for middle schoolers.
If I suggested that a high-school senior join a sixth-grade debate team, swim team, or band, I’d be laughed out of the room. That’s absurd! Yet Boy Scouts of America (BSA) does essentially this by insisting that high schoolers linger in Scouts BSA (formerly Boy Scouts), a program optimized for middle schoolers.
It’s time to take high school youth seriously. Instead of saddling them with babysitting chores, we must provide them their own opportunities in Venturing, BSA’s excellent, age-appropriate program that already exists!
Scouts BSA is built for middle schoolers
Scouts BSA is a middle-school program. A well-run troop delivers a great program for middle-schoolers with activities aligned to their interests and abilities. The traditional troop experience–the patrol system, a focus on Scoutcraft skills, the structure of summer camps, much of the merit badge curriculum, and more–is optimized for this early-adolescence cohort.
The bulk of active Scouts BSA members are middle schoolers. Each year, troops replenish with a new class of fifth-graders.
In contrast, what is the main role of a high schooler in a middle-school program? Babysitting.
It wasn’t supposed to be this way. Robert Baden-Powell is the founder of Scouting. His 1907 Brownsea Island experiment is the origin of today’s Scouts BSA program.
Baden-Powell’s Brownsea Island experiment included youth aged 10–171 . Baden-Powell quickly realized that this included distinct age cohorts who are best served with different approaches.
BP’s musings on differentiation
Not long after his Brownsea Island experiment, and before the UK Boy Scouts Association2 (UK BSA3) was even formed, Baden-Powell started developing thoughts on distinctions between the middle-school and high-school age cohorts.4 While the details varied, his musings recommended program differentiation:
He identified a special relevance of his original Scouting program for boys ages 11 to 14.5
He calls out ages 11-15 as when Scouts helps boys be “imbued with … patriotism and unselfishness”.6
He proposed redesigning the program into three sections. In one case, he suggested Wolf Cubs (ages 9-11), Boy Scouts (ages 12-14), and Service Scouts (ages 14-18), with Service Scouts being a alternative to “compulsory Cadet Training”.7 In another case, he proposed preparatory (8-11), character (11-16), and civic (16-18) sections.8
He differentiated between the suitability of the British Army’s cadet program for “older boys” (roughly ages 15+) versus the “young ones” (roughly 11-14).9
He proposed a program at “continuation schools” for “all boys of fourteen to sixteen”.10
He characterized troops where different age cohorts are combined as “ridiculous”.11
In 1916, he laid out a preliminary plan for providing a differentiated program for “Elder Scouts” that is more relevant to their life stage, which he found to be distinct from the 11-14 cohort.12
Scouts Defence Corps
A brief experiment with the Scouts Defence Corps, starting in 1915, aided retention of boys aged 15-years-old and up. This program’s termination placed this cohort’s retention problems back on Baden-Powell’s mind:
Many Scouts Defence Corps Officers noted that their membership had been made up of older lads who were leaving their Scout Groups at 15-plus, as there were no specific activities or badges for lads of this age group at that time. With the demise of the Defence Corps, ‘retention’ became a major problem and in answer to it the Senior Scouts Section was started 1917.
As mentioned in the above quote, a Senior Scouts section was started in 1917.
Baden-Powell proposed formalizing this as Rovers, which was to be for ages 15 and up. In his September 1918 book, Provisional Rules for Rover-Scouts, 6th Edition, Baden-Powell started with an impactful preamble13 (“older lad” refers to the boys 15 and older, roughly correlating to modern USA high-school ages):
It is obvious that just as the boy of 8-11 is constitutionally different and requires different training from the boy of 11-15, so the older lad, developing into manhood, requires a separate education and treatment of his own. The loss from the Scout Movement of many of these lads … is due … to the constant repetition, without novelty, of the old Tests and games. The older lads want to do bigger things, to do things as men do them, and to have more vigorous Scouting work than that which is applicable to the lower mental and physical capacity of the younger boys.
Provisional Rules for Rover Scouts laid out how Rover Scouts were to operate. Meant to employ Scouting fundamentals similar to those in Scouting for Boys14, this publication defined a program for youth aged 15 and up. In other words, Baden-Powell felt that while the core program tenets were universal, the approach needs to be optimized to each age cohort.
Just as Wolf Cubs got a program distinct from Scouts (“Scouts” refers to Baden-Powell’s original program, still named Scouts today in the UK, and that maps to the Scouts BSA program in BSA), Baden-Powell recommended Rovers also get a program distinct from Scouts15:
The Rover Patrol must have its own separate hour or night for meeting. This may present a difficulty. One solution is the holding of the Rover meeting after the Scout troop has finished its evening’s work in the same room. The boys will prefer, however, to have their own meeting place, which is always open to them, or to which all have keys.
While Baden-Powell’s Provisional Rules for Rover Scouts made a great case for differentiation, his organizational improvements were shot down. In June 191816, at a meeting Baden-Powell could not attend, the 15+ cohort was excluded from Rovers.17 Rovers was changed to an early-adult program, with a minimum age of 17.18 This course change was because accommodating young soldiers, starting to stream back from World War 1 tours of duty, was viewed as urgent.19
Aids to Scoutmastership
In Aids to Scoutmastership, Baden-Powell writes:
[Scouting] is a game in which elder brothers (or sisters) can give their younger brothers healthy environment and encourage them to healthy activities such as will help them to develop CITIZENSHIP.
A facial read may lead one to believe Baden-Powell believes that older Scouts are who give younger Scouts this game. In fact, Baden-Powell uses “older brother” to describe adults!
Later in Aids to Scoutmastership, Baden-Powell describes the right adult leader as a “Boy-Man” who not only must “realise the psychology of the differen’t ages of boy life” but also “has got to put himself on the level of the older brother, that is to see things from the boy’s point of view, and to lead and guide and give enthusiasm in the right direction.”20 He reinforces with that moral education needs a “a close confidence between teacher and pupil, on the relationship of elder and younger brother”.21 He tempers with that the Scoutmaster “brings a great responsibility on himself” because “[i]t is easy to become the hero as well as the elder brother of the boy”.22
In all this, Baden-Powell is reinforcing the adult association method of Scouting. That is a remarkably different vision than BSA, where adults commonly abdicate adult association, barking”Ask your SPL!”23 This instead emphasizes the failed high-school babysitting-regime experiment while diminishing the role of the most important youth lead role, the Patrol Leader. More on this later.
Finally, in the book’s introduction, Baden-Powell criticizes Cadet training because it treats boys in different life stages “all on the same footing.”24 He contrasts it to “Scout training”, which provides differentiated programming for “seniors and juniors25…to meet the different stages of the boys’ progressivity.”26
UK achieves BP’s vision in 1967
Baden-Powell’s vision for differentiated programming for seniors and juniors wasn’t fully met for decades. Once the age for Rovers was increased to 17, older youth were sent back to the middle-school program, and it stayed that way for the remainder of Baden-Powell’s leadership in UK BSA.
In 1946, UK BSA created a modest differentiation, called Senior Scouts, for ages 15-18.27 This still operated in troops, alongside the ages 11-14 Scouts. A UK citizen, who was a Senior Scout in the 1950s, described the experience as a mix between independence and activities resembling BSA’s babysitting regime.
It wasn’t until a late 1967 reform28, driven by the Advance Party Report, that Baden-Powell’s vision was fully realized. Along with the UK BSA renaming itself The Scout Association (TSA), the TSA created a separate section for ages 15.529-20 named Venture Scouts30. Today, this section is known as Explorer Scouts and is for ages 14-18.31
TSA is now joined by 100% of BSA’s international peers in providing separate Scouting opportunities for middle-school and high-school youth. Stuck far in the past, lagging behind its international peers, and disregarding rational societal norms, BSA infantilizes its high schoolers, saddling them with babysitting chores while keeping them in middle-school purgatory.
Ernest Thompson Seton got it
Ernest Thompson Seton came up with several core ideas of Scouting in Woodcraft Indians, which he founded in 1901. Intrigued by Seton’s ideas, Baden-Powell adopted core aspects of Seton’s Woodcraft Indians into his fledgling Scouts program.
Seton became a founder of BSA. By the time he co-authored BSA’s first Official Handbook in 1910, Seton had almost a decade of experience with youth. The Handbook‘s introduction includes Seton’s nine “leading principles”. In principle 8, “A Heroic Ideal”, Seton wrote that “[t]he boy from ten to fifteen … is purely physical in his ideals.”32 With this, Seton was implicitly bracketing the core age where the Boy Scout program had most relevance.33
This age band wasn’t accidental. The same statement later appears a few years later in Seton’s The Book of Woodcraft34, which reignited his Woodcraft Indians program after he was pushed out of BSA35.
BSA’s international peers get it
As mentioned above, BSA stands out from its international peers by infantilizing high schoolers, forcing most to linger in a middle-school program, saddled with babysitting chores:
Red bands roughly map to USA middle-school ages, and green bands roughly map to USA high-school ages.36
BSA’s brown band is where its middle- and high-school programs overlap, competing for members. Per data shared later, the vast majority of BSA’s high schoolers are stuck in its middle-school program!
Further harming BSA’s programs (Cub Scouts, Scouts BSA, and Venturing37) are how many ages BSA crams into each. BSA sticks out from its WOSM peers in its huge per-program age range, which leads to unfocused, diluted programs:
Contemporary adolescent psychology is aligned with program separation
USA educational system organized around adolescent developmental stages
Numerous peer-reviewed research articles or quality publications cluster adolescents into age bands. The National Academies of Science gives an example38:
National Academies of Science
This is just one example. The names and precise brackets for the age bands vary between publications.
For this article, I will use the age bands as defined by Professor John P. Cunha, DO39 and others, which are aligned to societal norms of middle-school, high-school, and post-high-school life stages:
Life stage
Grades
Ages
Early adolescence
6-8 (middle school)
11-14
Middle adolescence
9-12 (high school)
14-18
Late adolescence
early adulthood (after high school)
18-25
An aside on the middle-school concept
While it is beyond the scope of this article, you are invited to review the history of the USA middle-school concept. Before this concept emerged, children up to 8th grade were generally in elementary schools (primary education), and grades 9-12 were generally in high schools (secondary education).
The kickoff to today’s customary middle schools was Indianola Junior High School, which in 1909 took on grades 7 and 8.40
Importantly, education was improved by better serving the life stage of middle schoolers with differentiation. There has been no serious movement to merge middle schools with high schools; that would be absurd.
Adolescent developmental stages
Adolescence is a complex set of concurrent changes. Kicked off by puberty, adolescence “involv[es] a number of physiological and structural changes that tend to occur over a variable time period.”41 The timing and pace of each change has variable individual expression.42 Still, reasonable norms can be established for adolescent life stages (see above for definition of these life stages):
Factor
Early Adolescence (middle school)
Mid-Adolescence (high school)
Late Adolescence (after high school)
Growth
Rapid growth spurt, height and weight increase
Rapid growth, approaching adult height
Adult height
Pubertal changes
Onset of puberty, sexual characteristics develop
Sexual maturation continues, mostly completes
Hormone levels stabilize
Cognitive ability
Mostly concrete and black-and-white, limited abstract reasoning
Abstract reasoning and problem-solving improves, but still impulsive
Developing sexual identity, forming intimate relationships
There’s room to disagree on the details of this table. The main point is of significant differences between these life stages. You are invited to dig deeper into research articles and other resources in Appendix A.
Societal norms set helpful expectations
Societal norms on age cohorts are deeply ingrained. Our educational system is set up around them, and it’s common for youth-serving programs to use similar age cohorts.43 This helps set expectations for risk management and acceptable intra-cohort differences.
Society has not conferred wide acceptance of combining different age cohorts as peers in the same program. For example, it is unusual to slice off only ninth grade and place it in middle schools.44 This, plus the rationale for how each cohort maps to a distinct developmental phase, exposes us to risk and program-quality problems when we combine different stages as program peers.
Returning to societal norms, consider a problematic interaction between an 8th grader and a 6th grader. Middle schools deal with this all the time, so abundant experience and guidance is available. That’s far different than, say, a problematic interaction between a new, 10-year-old, 5th-grade Scout45, who is attending her first campout in a Scouts BSA troop, and an experienced 12th grader46, who are literal peers due to BSA’s program design47.
Deviating from these cohorts, especially with no rational basis, is ill-advised. But that is BSA’s approach!
These cohorts benefit from distinct approaches
Due to considerable differences between middle schoolers and high schoolers, different approaches are beneficial.
One example is a dramatic difference in sexual experience. For example, 17-year-olds are 1300% more likely to have had sex than 11-year-olds.48 While I support BSA’s prohibition of sexual activity at Scout events, an adult leader’s approach for high schoolers will be different than the approach for younger cohorts.
This also includes big differences in an ability to learn and practice leadership.
First, a crucial note: I am using an authentic meaning of leadership for this article. Widespread confusion causes many to conflate leadership with administration and management. Leadership is about a vision for change and voluntary followership, not about hierarchies, formal roles, completing checklists, etc. This is covered in more depth at Unleash True Leadership: Break Free from BSA’s Outdated Program Design.
Per the above chart, emergence from black-and-white thinking into abstract reasoning and gaining an ability to manage peer influence–among several factors crucial for one to be a true leader–occur during the high-school life stage.
While middle schoolers are not devoid of capacity to learn leadership, their ability is in a much different state than high schoolers. Leadership training acceptable for middle schoolers is too dumbed down for high schoolers.
We could continue, compiling a long list of substantiative differences between middle schoolers and high schoolers where program differentiation is beneficial to each cohort. With its head in the sand, BSA clings to obsolete thinking, that 17-year-olds should be peers to 11-year-olds in the same program.
BSA bastardized it
Contrary to its its international peers, BSA rejects Baden-Powell’s and Seton’s wisdom, it rejects USA societal norms, and it rejects science. Instead, BSA bastardizes the high-school Scouting experience.
With no evidence supporting its stance, BSA clings on a myth, that high schoolers are best served by lingering in its middle-school program as babysitters. This fairy tale pervades BSA’s decades of failure at serving high schoolers.
BSA has always insisted on babysitting chores for high schoolers
In Guide Book, in a section titled “The Psychology of Young Manhood”, BSA lays out a great, 12-point case for why high schoolers are different than middle schoolers.
SA then goes incoherent. After making a great case for program separation, BSA recommends infantilization, insisting that high schoolers remain in middle-school purgatory:
…upon reaching the age of 15 the Scout may acquire the status of Senior Scout which accords him certain privileges and responsibilities but which encourages him to remain as a Scout in the Troop except in special situations…
Why does BSA want the high schooler to “remain as a Scout in the Troop”? In various places in Guide Book, BSA makes clear that age-appropriate programming is provided under the expectation that older Scouts continue their babysitting chores.
Few high-school units exist
BSA has been quite successful in failing high schoolers. First, for its 115 year history, it has never truly tried to solve the older-youth problem. To do that, BSA must leave behind obsolete ideas, especially the babysitting regime.
BSA’s insistence on high schoolers remaining in middle-school purgatory is evident in availability of each type of unit. As of October 15, 2024, BSA has about a 10:1 ratio of middle-school units to high-school units:
20,148 middle-school units (Scouts BSA troops) (91%)
2,012 high-school units (Venturing crews) (9%)
In terms of youth-member count, high-school programs barely have any youth. See the green Venturing bars:
Membership by age, categorized by BSA’s programs. Due to when these numbers were collected, the 18 year old Scouts BSA members are mainly those who turned 18 in the first 10 months of 2024.
The vast majority of BSA’s high schoolers are stuck in middle-school purgatory.
Many high-school units are sabotaged
Even worse, the integrity of many of these high-school units is questionable. Much of BSA’s alleged high-school programming may be a subterfuge.
Over 3/4 of crew members are probably simultaneously registered in a troop. Crews are therefore often pitted against the middle-school program, competing for high-schoolers’ time. Given the BSA’s longstanding expectation of high schoolers remaining in middle-school purgatory and that few high-school youth likely can fully invest in more than one Scouting program, it’s likely that dual-registered youth are prioritizing babysitting chores in the middle-school program over age-appropriate programming.
On top of that, I am aware of “in name only” Venturing crews that are hobbled. Some are de facto patrols of the middle-school program. Some are created mainly to enable the middle-school program to get high-adventure slots. Some are routinely sabotaged to assure availability of babysitters for the middle-school program.
Few high schoolers are active in troops
Per above, in the original Scouts program in the UK, it was notable how youth aged 15 and older fled troops. BSA is no different.
In 1938, BSA had 830,878 troop members49. 78% were ages 12-14, and only 21% were ages 15-17. Attrition was about 50% between ages 15 and 1650.
Today has a similar trend, although the above graph misrepresents it. In that graph, it looks like attrition through Scouts BSA is linear and modest. It’s much worse.
This graph only indicates who paid BSA’s annual membership fee. It does not show who is active. With dreams of Eagle Scout ranks helping with scholarships, college placement, careers, and more, many parents freely pay annual membership fees for their inactive youth.
High schoolers are largely rejecting their babysitting chores. Many are inactive. This is easily observable in typical troop meetings or activities: the proportion of high schoolers participating is drastically lower than indicated above. While this is my own qualitative view, I have seen many, many troops from the 1990s through now. Robust high-school-age participation is unusual.
It’s even apparent in Dr. Jay Mechling‘s excellent book and ethnographic study, On My Honor. Covering his observations of a California troop over three decades (1970s through 1990s), he describes a troop well known for having four middle-school patrols of around 8 Scouts each and one “Senior” patrol of high schoolers.51 This is a lopsided ratio of 4:1 middle schoolers to high schoolers. In other words, most Scouts fled this troop before their role transitioned to babysitting.
Disgusted with babysitting, waiting until last minute to get Eagle
More suggestive evidence comes from BSA’s own statistics on the average age when youth earn their Eagle Scout rank. It is 17.3 years old.52
This only an average. It includes all ages, even 12-year-old “paper Eagles”. For the average to be 17.3, there are likely an outsized number of youth who earn Eagle very close to their 18th birthday, the deadline to perform all work for the Eagle Scout rank.
Why so old, for a badge program normally started when 10 years old? The high schoolers who don’t flee the babysitting regime are minimizing involvement in Scouting. They do the bare minimum needed to prevent parental nagging.
The typical Eagle Scout-rank earner resurfaces disturbingly close to the 18th birthday to hold his or her nose, resuming babysitting chores while knocking out the last part of the Eagle Scout rank.
Reconstruing the above graph to show Scouts who are actually active in their troops, I estimate numbers more like this:
This is a rough, qualitative estimateof Scouts BSA membership by age, informed by the author’s decades of observations. The 18 year old Scouts BSA members are mainly members who turned 18 in the first 10 months of 2024.
This illustrates the precipitous drop-off in troop participation that starts to really take hold in 8th grade. Why does the sag start in 8th grade? Look at their perspective: All they have to look forward to is four more years of a middle-school program they are already outgrowing!
High schoolers are singled out for babysitting chores
Babysitting is when a program’s main job for one cohort is to supervise or otherwise serve a younger cohort. That’s precisely BSA’s customary expectation for high schoolers who linger in its middle-school program (Scouts BSA).
Let’s look at this more broadly:
Is the best and highest purpose of grades 3-5 to babysit grades K-2? No!
Is the best and highest purpose of grades 6-8 to babysit grades 3-5? No!
Those would be absurd. We accept that grades 3-5 and 6-8 deserve age-appropriate programming. Babysitting chores are not that.
Why does the narrative change for grades 9-12? Why does BSA believe that, unlike other age cohorts, grades 9-12 are unworthy of age-appropriate programming? They only deserve infantilization, forced to babysit ages 10-14?
Babysitting is the main point of high schoolers in Scouts BSA!
High schoolers don’t like it
“But my high schoolers love my troop! [snort]”
-Rando adult leaders, while clutching pearls Wood Badge beads
I’ve heard several adult leaders glowing over how their high schoolers appreciated the opportunity to mentor middle schoolers.
Some youth do thrive on serving younger cohorts. I love it when youth have these aptitudes. I propose that we do much better at this with Guides, a servant-leadership role.
But my consistent experience is few youth have this interest or aptitude. I did not when I was a youth. My sons didn’t. Nothing is wrong with us. We were normal.
The adult leaders’ glowing comes from selection bias. This is when one takes readings from a biased sample, then improperly generalizes findings from those readings.
Here’s an example of selection bias. Imagine you’re trying to find out if people like spicy food. If you only survey customers at a hot-sauce shop, you’ll conclude that most people enjoy spicy food. That’s because you’re only talking to people who already like spicy flavors, not everyone in the general population. This is a simple example of selection bias, where your sample isn’t representative.
The above Scoutmasters are glowing about their biased sample. Youth who stick around and remain active are those who tolerate babysitting. That, plus a cultural expectation of obedience or deference to adults, of course adults will hear positive stories about babysitting chores. However, these adults are ignoring the voice of the vast majority of high schoolers, who fled BSA’s babysitting program.53
Bells and whistles don’t change this
“But OA and high adventure and camp staffing keep them involved! [snort]”
-Rando adult leaders, while clutching pearls Wood Badge beads
BSA’s main strategy for high-school retention isn’t a relevant program. Instead, it’s to distract from babysitting chores with shiny objects. BSA does this with mainly camp staffing, high adventure, and a weird, racist, secret society.
These shiny objects don’t change that the main program for high schoolers is the babysitting regime. In the same sense, adding shiny decorations to a Christmas tree does not change that it’s a tree.
To experience these shiny objects, youth must be registered in a Scout program. For the vast majority of high schoolers, this means registration in the middle-school program, Scouts BSA. Therefore, the core Scouting experience for most high schoolers is the babysitting program.
When the high schooler is done with the shiny-object activity, that youth returns to babysitting chores in the troop.
Even worse, with its belief that shiny objects retain high schoolers, BSA admits that the middle-school program fails to retain them! In other words, BSA has high schoolers escape the middle-school program to find age-appropriate opportunities!
So sure, your high schoolers can go to Philmont. It’s a good experience, and I recommend it! But when the Philmont experience is done, they return to babysitting chores in the middle-school program.
BSA’s patrol method is not a leadership training tool
The patrol method used by BSA is not Baden-Powell’s patrol method.
Baden-Powell’s vision was of independent patrol-teams that acted on visions coordinated by adult leaders. He had no Senior Patrol Leader role.
Among the few things BSA is getting right is increasing use of “position of responsibility” to describe youth administrative roles in troops. This is accurate, as BSA’s bureaucratic patrol method discourages leadership.
High school is the life stage where abilities aligned with leadership start to “turn on”. For high schoolers to get leadership experience, it’s important to rip off the patrol method’s training wheels. This requires a different approach than Scouts BSA.
“Well, you’re losing high schoolers because you just don’t know how to run a troop right. [snort]”
-Rando adult leaders, while clutching pearls Wood Badge beads
Scouts BSA is aligned to the life stage of middle schoolers. The vast majority of active troop members are middle schoolers. Each year, troops that thrive get a new, large class of Scouts near the end of their fifth grade year.
If you’re running a troop right, you’re running a great middle-school program! High schoolers will naturally feel unserved by this.
Some claim to have bucked BSA’s failed approach, instead offering differentiated, age-appropriate programming for high schoolers. In fact, these youth are still poorly served. They can’t rip off the patrol method’s training wheels, their babysitting chores rarely go away, and their main, age-appropriate programming comes from fleeing the middle-school program for the shiny objects. This is not a substitute for an age-appropriate program.
Start serving high schoolers, stop the infantilization
For 115 years, BSA has chosen to infantilize high schoolers, keeping them in middle-school purgatory. Due to this choice, BSA serves high schoolers poorly, and it lags decades behind its WOSM peers and defies the society it’s supposed to serve.
BSA’s disregard of high schoolers remains strong today:
In multiple closed settings in recent years, senior national executives have voiced a desire to cancel all high-school programming.
The national organization conspired to destroy older-youth opportunities with its 2019 Churchill Plan.
In 2024, the national organization arbitrarily annihilated well regarded Venturing training programs, destroying Kodiak and wrecking Power Horn. Showing contempt for the base, national conspired in extreme secrecy, then it laughably promised a lackadaisical, secretive approach to a “review”.
The national organization generally provides minimal support to Venturing.
BSA is in year 115 of its failed experiment of trying to solve the “older [youth] problem”. This failed experiment is a Sisyphean quest. Until it stops infantilizing high schoolers–expecting them to remain in middle-school program–BSA will eternally push a rock up a hill.
To move past this, BSA must make two program changes:
Age-appropriate programming that may retain high schoolers.
Venturing’s elephant in the room
As much as I like Venturing, it has an elephant in the room.
Like Scouts BSA, Venturing covers too many ages, ranging from 1354 to 20. This combines high school and early adulthood into one program. I won’t re-litigate my above arguments, but parents, you’re right to question why your 8th grade kiddo is a program peer to a 20 year old college sophomore! That is super weird! But super weird is normal in BSA.
Why such a large span? In 1971, BSA increased the cut-off age of Exploring, Venturing’s predecessor program55, from 18 to 2156. While I cannot find a definitive source to confirm this, several some references suggest it was yet another boneheaded decision of the national organization, this time to get those wanting Rovering to shut up.
Rovering is generally a Scouting program for ages 18-25. It offers age-appropriate programming for young adults.
To correct the elephant in the room, BSA needs to restrict Venturing to high school, meaning grades 9-12. Yes, this means 14 year old 8th graders may no longer be a part of Venturing. It starts for everyone once 8th grade is done.
Importantly, the last year must generally allow all 12th graders to be genuine peers, regardless of age. It would not be acceptable to revisit BSA’s failed Churchill Plan conspiracy to destroy Venturing, which proposed to eject youth members on their 18th birthday, effectively gradual ejection of all youth at random and arbitrary points during the 12th grade year.
It is also crucial that 18-year-old 12th graders are in no way separated from or treated differently than their under-18-year-old high school peers. For example, a high schooler who just turned 18 may still buddy-pair or tent with her 17-year-old friend. This means that for youth members of Venturing, BSA’s differential treatments prescribed for adults are deferred until high-school graduation.
BSA also needs to start Rovering. This starts at high-school graduation and ends around age 25.
Appendix A: More reading on stages of adolescence
In no particular order, this is suggested research that can provide more insight on the stages of adolescence:
Alan D Rogol, M.D., Ph.D., James N Roemmich, Ph.D., Pamela A Clark, M.D., “Growth at puberty“, Journal of Adolescent Health, December 2002.
Brittany Allen, MD, and Helen Waterman, DO, “Stages of Adolescence”, Healthy Children: The AAP Parenting Website, American Academy of Pediatrics, April 29, 2024
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine; Health and Medicine Division; Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education; Board on Children, Youth, and Families; Committee on the Neurobiological and Socio-behavioral Science of Adolescent Development and Its Applications; Backes EP, Bonnie RJ, editors. The Promise of Adolescence: Realizing Opportunity for All Youth. Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 2019 May 16. (see figure 2-1)
The formal name appears to be Boy Scouts Association. To make clear that I am not referring to the USA’s Boy Scouts of America–also BSA–I prefix references to this Boy Scouts Association with “UK”. ↩︎
“UK BSA” is a convenience initialization used in this article to differentiate the United Kingdom’s Boy Scouts Association from BSA, which stands for Boy Scouts of America. I do not believe the Boy Scout Association used that initialism. ↩︎
Several, but not all, of Baden-Powell’s thoughts appear to be in response to a government proposal for dramatic expansion of the British Army’s cadets program for all boys. While he seems to be responding to proposal for boys roughly aged 15-18, he sometimes seems to refer to proposals that start at age 11. Baden-Powell saw the cadet program as inferior to Scouting, especially for the life stage of younger boys (11-14). ↩︎
B.-P.’s Outlook, The Scouter, “The Value of Camp Life”, April 1911 ↩︎
Ibid, “Ridiculous Troops” October 1916. While in this case he was talking about elementary schoolers being in the same program as middle schoolers, the bigger-picture insight is how he conveyed the ridiculousness of combing two different life stages into the same program. ↩︎
Ibid, “Retention of the Elder Scout, December 1916 ↩︎
Baden-Powell was the Chief Scout and chairman for life in the fledging UK Boy Scouts Association. The foreword of Provisional Rules For Rover-Scouts is signed “THE CHIEF SCOUT”. Given these and Baden-Powell’s prior musings on separate sections for high schoolers, I am assuming much of this publication was written by him and that parts he did not write hewed closely to his values. ↩︎
Scouting for Boys is the original handbook for the middle-school program. ↩︎
A plain read of Rules for Rover Scouts may lead one to mistakenly believe Rovers were to act like an older-Scout patrol within a Scouts BSA troop. In fact, we are seeing early thoughts that evolved into the section model, which is employed in today’s The Scouting Association (the modern name for UK BSA) and by many of BSA’s peer Scouting organizations. In Rules for Rover Scouts book, “troop” relates somewhat to BSA’s concept of a chartered organization, in the sense that a CO may charter a pack, troop, and crew. The UK troop would have a Wolf Cubs section, a Scouts section, and a Rovers section. As Baden-Powell’s “Ridiculous Troops” article, cited earlier, warned against combining different life stages into one program, this further affirms that the language in Rules for Rover Scouts is properly understood as recommending program separation. ↩︎
This conference, where a minimum age of 17 was set for Rovers, was a few months before the date on Provisional Rules for Rover-Scouts, which defined a program starting at age 15. I am not sure how to explain this. ↩︎
Robert Baden-Powell, Rovering to Success, p. 223, where it specifies that “members should be seventeen years of age or over on joining.” ↩︎
This is mainly from a conversation I had with Colin Walker. However, while not explicitly stated here, this source supports the theory: “How Rovers Started“, Scouts History website ↩︎
“Ask your SPL” is how some adults diminish the adult-association part of Scouting, instead reinforcing to younger Scouts that they must accept being babysat by high schoolers. Literally, the adult denies the kid help, instead directing the kid to get help from a youth–typically a high schooler–in the Senior Patrol Leader role. In doing this, the adult leader also supports BSA’s undermining of the Patrol Leader role, which is intended to be the direct-contact leader for most troop youth. ↩︎
“How Scouting grew“, UK Scouting Association. While this source asserts a 1946 start for the Senior Section, this might be apocryphal. I think there’s a chance that this is being confused with setting a maximum age for Rovers, which appears to have happened the same year. ↩︎
The leaving age for school at this time was 15, per Wikipedia‘s “Raising of school leaving age in England and Wales“. Therefore, it’s possible Venture Scouts’s age range was centered on a life stage marked by graduating from compulsory schooling. However, this in no way invalidates that today’s middle schoolers and high schoolers have considerable, natural differences in capability, outlook, and other crucial factors. I review this more later in this article. Also, be reminded that in the letters of Baden-Powell, from five decades earlier, in several cases identified separate age bands that correspond to middle school and high school. ↩︎
I don’t know how to explain why this new program would cover ages 15.5-20, when 1946’s Senior Scouts covered 14-18. Did the Scouts aged 14-15.5 have to revert back to the middle-school program? I suspect, as per an earlier footnote, that the facts may be loose and that the late 1960s was the first time an older-youth section was created. ↩︎
Official Handbook, Ernest Thompson Seton and Robert S.S. Baden-Powell, Boy Scouts of America, 1910, p. 4. ↩︎
The joining age was 12 until 1949, when it switched to 11 (see Mark Ray, “Get With the Programs“, Scouting Magazine, January-February 2010). Today, one may join Scouts BSA as young as 10 years old, which affirms Seton’s younger end of his age bracket. ↩︎
Germany’s BdP and Denmark’s DDS place high schoolers and young adults in the same program. While that is not a recommendation of this article, their high schoolers are nevertheless in a different section than their middle schoolers. ↩︎
While BSA’s Sea Scouts program is separate from Venturing, BSA often lumps Sea Scouts’s concerns with Venturing, often labeling the combined concern “Venturing”. This article follows BSA’s convention not out of hostility to Sea Scouts but, in many cases, due to a lack of differentiation in BSA’s own information. ↩︎
National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine; Health and Medicine Division; Division of Behavioral and Social Sciences and Education; Board on Children, Youth, and Families; Committee on the Neurobiological and Socio-behavioral Science of Adolescent Development and Its Applications; Backes EP, Bonnie RJ, editors, “The Promise of Adolescence: Realizing Opportunity for All Youth“, National Academies Press (US), 2019 May 16. ↩︎
Howard E. Barbaree, and William L. Marshall, eds., The Juvenile Sex Offender, Guilford Publications, 2005, p. 20. The word use in this paragraph of the book is a bit jumbled, but the author appears to be referring to puberty as the kickoff to adolescence. It would be weird to say that puberty is a moment-in-time event that is followed by adolescence. ↩︎
This statement is generally affirmed in research. Also, I have been a direct-contact leader for hundreds of youth over the past 15 years. I have observed considerable variance in onset of some secondary sex characteristics. Considering the most striking examples–youth whose onsets are before or after most their peers–the variance in my community is around six years. ↩︎
This is inferred from how the educational system and virtually every formal activity for youth, like after-school clubs or church groups, provide different opportunities for high schoolers and middle-schoolers. Some may say sports is an exception, as younger kids can often “play up” on older teams. However, that is still a rolling window that blocks wide age differentials. The soccer team I coach has a four-year differential, the same maximum age differential as a typical high school. ↩︎
Cub Scouts often “cross over” to Scouts BSA months before their 5th grade year ends. The Scouts BSA program goes through the end of age 17, 12th graders are eligible to be in Scouts BSA. ↩︎
In Types of Patrols, BSA recommends mixed-age patrols by listing it as the first option, without qualification. Therefore, it’s BSA’s recommendation that a 10 year old new member of Scouts BSA be in the same patrol as a 17 year old high-school senior. The patrol is the team that camps together, cooks together, and does all its activities together. Yes, this is super weird. ↩︎
Patricia A Cavazos-Rehg, Melissa J Krauss, Edward L Spitznagel, Mario Schootman, Kathleen K Bucholz, Jeffrey F Peipert, Vetta Sanders-Thompson, Linda B Cottler, Laura Jean Bierut, “Age of sexual debut among US adolescents“, Contraception, April 23, 2009. Cited statistic came from a calculation on the numbers in table 1. In the “Age of first sexual intercourse” section, add up the precents for “11 years old or younger” though “17 years old or older”, then divide by the percent for “11 years old or younger” (3.24%). ↩︎
Twenty-Ninth Annual Report of the Boy Scouts of America (1938), United States Government Printing Office, 1939, p. 300 ↩︎
Dr. Jay Mechling, On My Honor: Boy Scouts and the Making of American Youth, The University of Chicago Press, 2001. On p. 10, Dr. Mechling distinguishes the “Senior Patrol” as being a “patrol of boys aged fourteen to seventeen”. Given that this is a summer camp, all of these will be high schoolers. The other four patrols are of younger boys. This troop was long known as the BEST troop because B, E, S, and T are the first letters of the names of the four middle-school patrols. ↩︎
This might be inferred by reviewing rank advancement, but that would be a loose estimate at best. ↩︎
While 14 is often cited as Venturing’s minimum age, 13-year-olds are allowed if they complete 8th grade. I once had a 9th grader who was 13 for most of his first year of Venturing. ↩︎
The predecessor program, Exploring, includes units that focused on career-exploration. Such units were often associated with public entities, such as police departments, fire departments, and more. In 1998, reacting to increasing reluctance of public institutions to be associated with BSA’s bigotry regarding gays, girls, and God, BSA moved the career-emphasis part of Exploring, along with the Exploring brand, to its Learning for Life subsidiary, which lacked bigoted membership standards. The remainder of Exploring, which stayed under BSA and retained BSA’s bigoted membership policies, was renamed Venturing. ↩︎
I am announcing a bold and positive vision the future of Boy Scouts of America: Move Forward: Save Scouting.
Why this matters
Scouting is at a tipping point. Without significant changes, BSA’s long-term decline may lead to its collapse within a decade.
Scouting once sold itself. With the right changes—pivots toward adventure, morality, efficiency, and relevance—BSA can once again become the organization that families choose with confidence.
Move Forward: My personal pivot
Since 2022, I have dedicated my time to understanding the key issues facing Scouting. Before advocating for solutions, I focused on identifying the obstacles—the “nos”—that hinder progress.
Through this process, I’ve built strong relationships across the Scouting community. I deeply appreciate the insights and support of those who have contributed. I will continue to honor your confidentiality!
I still have some “nos” to express. I intend for further “nos” to support the positive, bold vision.
What if national does not pivot?
Today, the national organization is not pivoting. It is dithering over silly bureaucratic matters and engaging in magical thinking. This will not save Scouting.
Apologies for the organization won’t save the movement. Bold, rapid change will. We need pivots. We need to break glass. We need bold, decisive action.
Boy Scouts of America (BSA) extensively promotes leadership development. On its home page, BSA’s “value of Scouting” statement concludes with “prepar[ing] youth for a lifetime of leadership.”1
While BSA instills many important qualities in youth, an obsolete program design means few Scouts gain authentic leadership experience.
The Eagle Scout rank illustrates this. Nearly everyone who earns this rank does so while in the Scouts BSA program.2Optimized for the developmental stage of middle schoolers, Scouts BSA does not emphasize leadership skills. Even the Eagle project3, while valuable, emphasizes administration and management.4 It doesn’t require key aspects of real leadership, like motivating a team over the long haul or driving a vision to completion beyond managing a checklist.5
We can fix this by recognizing what leadership is—and is not—and by improving BSA’s programs to offer more leadership development.
What leadership is
Leadership has three essentials:
Defining a vision for change.
Gaining voluntary buy-in to this vision.
Fostering progress toward that vision with willing followers.
Importantly, these parts happen in a “mutual influence process independent of any formal role or hierarchical structure” (emphasis added).6
What leadership isn’t
Widespread misunderstandings cause us to label unrelated matters as “leadership”. This creates confusion and undermines leadership development.
BSA’s patrol method is not leadership
As implemented in Scouts BSA, the patrol method is a hierarchical structure used by youth to operate a troop. Appropriate for middle-schoolers’ developmental stage, it helps develop aptitudes for teamwork, organization, responsibility, and more among young Scouts.
I do not mean to say that the patrol method is devoid of leadership! Nothing is perfectly black and white. But with its emphasis clear, the patrol method’s strengths are in management and administration, not leadership.
Positive character attributes are not leadership
A common mistake is to equate leadership with positive character traits. The idea is that demonstrating these traits is leadership.
While good leaders embody these traits, simply having them does not make one a leader.
In a few social-media forums for adult leaders, I asked for people to share concepts they associate with leadership. All responses were great positive-character attributes:
Word cloud of responses when asked, “What concepts do you associate with ‘leadership’? Single words or brief phrases, please.” 69 respondents provided 132 observations. Responses harmonized to adjectives and verbs.
These are positive character traits we’d want in anyone. Scouting does a great job of helping youth with these!
But we need to be careful about how we relate these traits to leadership. When we suggest exclusivity–that these are associated with leadership–what does that say about expectations of people in other roles? Incompetent administrators, unaccountable managers, immoral followers, unempathetic friends. That’s OK because they aren’t leaders?
Someone exhibiting these traits is showing good character! While that is to be celebrated, it is not related to whether that person is a leader.
Often, older Scouts’ babysitting chores are under the color of “senior” troop positions of responsibility. These roles, too, are divorced from leadership, as they have little to do with visions, voluntary buy-in, or willing followership.
Administration or management talent is not leadership
Some claim that honing administrative or managerial ability produces leadership skill. That, too, is wrong.
A person can be an effective leader while lacking managerial or administrative skills. History and modern examples abound of effective leaders who needed skilled managers and administrators around them because the leaders lacked those gifts.
Management and administration are valuable in their own right. They can enhance a leader’s effectiveness. But they are not leadership. Leadership can exist without management or administration, and mastery of these does not make someone a leader.
BSA’s patrol method is leadership with training wheels
A bicycle’s training wheels are a transitional support. You’re not really “riding a bike” until the training wheels come off.
The same applies to the patrol method. Like training wheels, the patrol method is transitional support to ease future leadership development. You’re not engaged in leadership until after the patrol method’s training wheels come off.
The patrol method is appropriate for middle schoolers’ developmental stage. Its structured environment helps Scouts grasp how to manage systems and exercise authority.
However, once youth are in high school, they are in a different developmental phase. They have marked changes in several developmental factors relevant to leadership, such as abstract thinking, emotional regulation, managing peer influence, navigating relationships, and more. They are ready for authentic leadership experiences, so high school is the right time to rip off the patrol method’s training wheels.
This is where Venturing shines. Venturing crews operate with fewer formalities and less structure. Crews can shape their own organizational models, and older Scouts can lead peers rather than supervise younger children.
Leading one’s peers to accomplish bigger, more adventurous goals is a real challenge. This is more engaging and rewarding than herding younger Scouts.
Research shows that excessive reliance on training wheels can hinder learning to ride a bike.7 Holding high schoolers back in the patrol method–keeping the middle-school training wheels on–obstructs leadership training!
How to fix this
The path to genuine leadership development within BSA is straightforward, but it requires moving beyond obsolete practices and leaving behind mistaken beliefs.
Most importantly, we must set side two myths about the babysitting regime.
Babysitting regime myth 1: It’s essential to the troop program
A pervasive myth is that the babysitting regime was Robert Baden-Powell’s vision or that he saw it as essential to the patrol method or to the troop program.
That is false.
In the decade following his 1907 Brownsea Island experiment, Robert Baden-Powell wrote many letters citing major developmental differences between older and younger Scouts and reviewed several schemes to improve Scouting for older Scouts. This culminated in 1918 when Baden-Powell recommended a separate section for an age band roughly corresponding to today’s high schoolers. More detail is in the Baden-Powell got it section of Scouts BSA: a middle-school program unsuitable for high schoolers. (Ernest Thompson Seton, one of BSA’s founders, also got it!)
All of BSA’s international peer Scouting organizations have since realized Baden-Powell’s vision. None have babysitting regimes, instead providing separate, age-appropriate programming to age brands roughly equivalent to our high schoolers8:
Program progressions of BSA’s international peer organizations. The green stripe roughly corresponds to USA’s high-school age band. Importantly: 1. All provide separate programs for their equivalent to USA high schoolers9. 2. BSA is the outlier, where its high-school program competes with a middle-school program and where around 90% of its high schoolers linger in a middle-school program.
It just takes cursory inspection of the UK Scouts section (again, only ages 11-14) to see a program that thrives without a babysitting regime. BSA, by contrast, is still stuck on an obsolete design from a century ago.
Babysitting regime myth 2: It retains high schoolers
High schoolers have competition for their time and interest–other activities, romantic relationships, desire for more self-direction, increased academic load, and more. If serving high schoolers is important to BSA, it is crucial for BSA to value being attractive to high schoolers.
From day 1, both UK and BSA Scouting programs observed that high schoolers found little appeal in the middle-school program. For them, it was repetitious, more of the same stuff optimized for their younger selves. This is called the “older boy youth problem”, which has been a problem for BSA since its founding.
For 115 years, BSA has engaged in many iterations of the same experiment, theorizing that the “older youth problem” can be addressed with the babysitting regime. That is, older youth will stick around if we give them the “reins” of a middle-school program.
Despite 115 years of trying, the babysitting regime never worked. Retention of high schoolers today remains as poor as always.
Start using words accurately
We must stop using “leadership” for orthogonal matters.
Stop using “leadership” to describe BSA’s implementation of the patrol method. It is not leadership.
Stop using “leadership” to describe generic, positive character attributes. They are not leadership.
Stop using “leadership” to describe administration or management. Neither are leadership.
Stop using “leadership” to describe babysitting chores. Supervision is not leadership.
Only use leadership to describe a visionary, voluntary, mutual influence process separate from formal roles or hierarchy.
Accept where leadership is not emphasized
Younger children and early adolescents are typically not ready for significant leadership development.10 That is normal.
They can still learn skills, confidence, and many other positive-character traits. This is valuable!
The patrol method works well for middle schoolers as a structured approach to growth and character development. Mastering the patrol method can help that person do better at leadership development.
Begin to value high schoolers
BSA must finally align itself with its peer Scouting organizations worldwide, the USA educational system, and virtually all major youth-serving USA organizations, end the babysitting regime, and provide older youth with genuinely age-appropriate programs.
I want to acknowledge that some troops cluster older Scouts, allowing them a degree of independence. While this is a few paces in the right direction, it’s nowhere near enough. These arrangements generally maintain a strong expectation of participation in the babysitting regime. When that new crop of 5th graders crosses over in the spring, we know who’s going to be tapped to–sigh–yet again repeat the annual cycle of teaching Tenderfoot skills.
I also want to acknowledge that BSA has other opportunities that appeal to high schoolers trapped in the middle-school program, like high adventure and camp staff. These are not a solution to the babysitting regime. While valuable, these opportunities are feasible for few high schoolers. Also, once the opportunity is done, the high schooler just returns to the babysitting regime. (Some would add Order of the Arrow to this list. Neck deep in racism, OA is a stain on Scouting and must be abolished.)
Transition from units to groups with sections
To avoid fragmentation, BSA should also adopt a group and section model, which many of our international peers use.
In this model, all units at a given location–say a pack, troop, and crew at one church–would be merged into one group with sections for each former unit. The group has one committee, one pool of adult leaders, and one pool of equipment.
The group’s key-three adult leaders would be a group program leader (position name TBD), Committee Chair, and Chartered Organization Representative. Each section would still have its own program lead (Cubmaster, Scoutmaster, Advisor, etc.).
While each section must provide age-appropriate programming, cross-section coordination is encouraged to facilitate logistical needs and promote collaboration.
Reassess BSA’s implementation of the patrol method
Program improvements for high schoolers also provide opportunities for major improvements to the middle-school program.
We should reassess BSA’s interpretation of the patrol method. BSA’s model is not Baden-Powell’s model!
BSA’s model often reduces the Patrol Leaders (PL) to an intermediary between the troop’s youth and the Senior Patrol Leader (SPL). Typically, PLs just implement concrete orders of the SPL.11
We should adjust the patrol method to allow more genuine leadership for the middle schoolers who are ready.
The UK Scouting Association can be an inspiration. In Robert Baden-Powell’s Brownsea Island experiment, there was no SPL. In the UK Scouts section today (ages 11-14), the SPL role is optional, often unused.12
In that style, each patrol leader takes initiative in coordinating activities or collaborating with other patrol leaders. For example, a troop of 30 Scouts might be split into four patrols that operate semi-independently. Each Patrol Leader coordinates activities and even inter-patrol competitions or service projects, with adult leaders mentoring. An SPL, if present, is often just the most senior Patrol Leader, mainly coordinating between patrols.
This offers more authentic leadership-development opportunity for middle-schoolers while still providing appropriate structure and age-appropriate programming.
Create Guides position of responsibility
Serving younger cohorts is valuable for those who are willing and able.
When I was a Den Leader, Cameron was my Den Chief for over three years. A high schooler, he did a fantastic job helping me with the den. I appreciated him so much.
As a youth soccer coach, I take a collection from parents so that I can pay talented older youth to help train the team. Paul, Malcolm, Ellie, Andrea, Merrick, and Ben have all been highly appreciated, providing valuable training to the team members.
Replacing Den Chief, Troop Guide, and Junior Assistant Scoutmaster will be a new Guide role.
The Guide is a new position of responsibility, where a youth member, in any program, serves a younger program by mentoring youth to success or assisting adults. The younger youth do not report to or take orders from a Guide. Instead, the Guide builds up younger youth in the style of servant leadership13.
The Guide may manage activities episodically, when requested by an adult leader, such as supervising a hike when the patrol leader lacks that capability.
Attachment to the babysitting regime will be strong, so guardrails are needed. The Guide role may not displace age-appropriate programming. Also, the Guide role must be voluntary. A Scout must never be coerced into a Guide role, and no unit may be coerced into supplying Guides to any other unit.
For example, it would be inappropriate to have a Venturing crew that has all its members be Guides for a troop and has no significant program beyond its members’ service to that troop. That is perpetuation of the babysitting regime.
Strengthen First Class and Eagle Scout ranks, abolish paper Eagles
Moving all high schoolers into an age-appropriate program is an opportunity to strengthen the rank system.
Today’s Eagle Scout rank is diminished by being the last rank in a woodcraft-centric, middle-school badge progression. It is possible to earn Eagle Scout at a young age–as young as 12 years old14–leading to a “paper Eagle” problem. Also, the 17-year-old senior earning Eagle Scout depends on steps that youth took starting in 5th grade. That is absurd.
We aren’t shooting high enough, and we aren’t doing it right. Eagle Scout should be strengthened as the terminal of a rank program one starts in high school. It should signify distinctive life skills, character development, and true leadership experience that sets the recipient apart from high-school peers.
We can also strengthen the First Class rank. Today, it’s diminished, lost as an intermediate badge in BSA’s middle-school badge program.
Becoming the terminal rank of the Scouts BSA program, we can strengthen First Class to meet Robert Baden-Powell’s original vision, where it signified when the Scout “really get[s] the value of the Scout training” and is “ground[ed] in the qualities, mental, moral, and physical, that go to make a good useful man.”15
A strengthened First Class rank will emphasize:
Mastery. Instead of being busywork one knocks out rapidly, the Trail to First Class is a series of steps that we take with a decided interest in mastery.
Adventure. Trail to First Class becomes a prescription for adventure. Instead of the requirements being “random things I have to do at the next campout”, they induce and enhance adventures. This can be helped with a three-year rolling suggested itinerary for troops.
Authentic. With a three-year path to First Class, we reduce advancement pressure, opening more opportunity for an authentic Scouting experience.
The new pace of advancement will help Scouts BSA be more comfortable for Scouts who are today uninterested in advancement. For some, an increase focus on adventure provides such Scouts more room to find meaningful experiences. For others, recasting advancement as a prescription for adventure makes it so that earning advancement feels more like a natural outcome of active participation.
With this, First Class also becomes a distinction worthy of celebration.
I estimate that over 90% of high schoolers in BSA remain in Scouts BSA, the middle-school program. Even for those who are involved in BSA’s high-school program, Venturing, while Eagle Scout may be competed in Venturing, it appears common for Venturers seeking Eagle to dual-register in the middle-school program and complete Eagle there. ↩︎
Simply calling it a “project” distances the Eagle project from leadership. Project management is grounded in management and administration, not leadership. In “The Leap from Project Manager to CEO Is Hard — But Not Impossible” (Harvard Business Review, November 8, 2023), Antonio Nieto-Rodriguez uses the “Gantt ceiling” to illustrate how successful project managers must also develop leadership capability–again, a different domain than project management–to be a contender for a leadership role. ↩︎
The Guide to Advancement purports to define leadership expectations for Eagle projects in section 9.0.2.4 (p. 67), titled “Give Leadership to Others …”. In fact, this section of Guide declines to clarify any leadership expectations! Instead, the authors reveal widespread confusion between management and leadership, evident by prohibitions on the use of management concerns to evaluate leadership. For example, an Eagle project’s success may not hinge on the number of people managed, total hours worked, or whether project participants met a performance standard. While these “nos” have value, BSA declines to clearly state what leadership means. ↩︎
These age bands do not line up exactly; the correlation is approximate. There are historical or societal reasons why they may not, such as differences in how secondary education is construed. ↩︎
While Denmark and Germany combine high school and early adulthood into one program–they lack a green band–that is not recommended for BSA. The broader point is that at roughly USA high-school ages, the Scout graduates from the middle-school program. ↩︎
I used “often” because, anecdotally, some later middle schoolers (ages 13-14) are surprisingly ready for leadership development. ↩︎
Some counter that BSA’s patrol method should empower patrol leaders. In practice, hierarchical structures often reduce patrol leaders to carrying out orders. Also, youth naturally gravitate to simpler, more black-and-white solutions, thus leaning toward administration rather than genuine leadership. ↩︎
While there is an option for an SPL in the UK’s Scouts section, there’s mixed used of the role. Often, the role is not used. When it is, the role is reserved for an older Scouts section member–13 or 14–or it’s occupied by an Explorer section member (14-18) who’s voluntarily in a Youth Leadership Scheme (around a tenth of Explorers do that scheme). ↩︎
Conventional notions of leadership describe an informal change process that affects institutions or systems. Servant leadership is still an informal change process, but instead of affecting an institution or system, the end result is development or enablement of a person. ↩︎
The critical path to get Eagle is 18 months: 1 month (Second Class requirement 7a) + 1 month (First Class requirement 8a) + 4 months (Star requirements 1 and 5) + 6 months (Life requirements 1 and 4) + 6 months (Eagle Scout requirements 1 and 4). Someone who joins a troop at age 10.5 can complete Eagle Scout not long after a 12th birthday. ↩︎
Robert Baden-Powell, “B.-P.’s Outlook: First-class Scout”, The Scouter, February 1914. ↩︎
Today, you learned you’ll soon search for a new Scout Executive (SE). I urge you to approach this with the best interests of our Scouts and the Scouting movement at heart. This means you should go outside of the national organization’s hand-picked pool of bureaucrats.
Robert Baden-Powell once exclaimed, “WE ARE A MOVEMENT, NOT AN ORGANISATION.”1 He went on with, “in working through love for the [youth], loyalty to the Movement, and comradeship one with another — that is, through the SPIRIT OF SCOUTING — we are on the right line.”2
I ask you to heed Baden-Powell’s wisdom while you select our next SE. Put the movement, the sprit of Scouting, and service to youth above all else. At every step in selecting a new Scout Executive, ask yourself, “How does my choice benefit our Scouts, our families, and our unit-level leaders?”
Choosing the right leader will require you to overcome constraints in BSA’s selection system. Per its rules, the national organization provides councils a hand-picked slate of SE candidates. This approach is more about control than serving the movement: it allows the national office to inject its problematic culture on our council, and it protects the careers of long-tenured bureaucrats in the commissioned-professional system.
History shows that you are unlikely to find a leader from such a limited pool. The commissioned-professional system has a track record of driving away strong leaders. This is evident in decades of internally sourced Chief Scout Executives (national CEOs) who have been proven ineffective or incompetent.
For the good of Circle Ten Council, you must break this pattern. I strongly encourage you to consider candidates outside of BSA’s curated pool. This is allowed!3 I encourage you to review this with other councils that bucked the system.
You may notice I have deliberately addressed you in the second person throughout this letter. This is intentional, because each of you—individually—shares responsibility for this decision. One of the most important duties of any board of directors is to select and oversee the organization’s chief executive. Not only is this common sense, but BSA’s own regulations underscore it.4
Your responsibility is both collective and individual. It falls to each executive board member, not just a select few, to be personally invested in the search for our next Scout Executive. Please stay informed and engaged at every step. Specifically, ask yourselves:
Am I fully aware of how the selection process is being conducted?
Do I know what the selection committee is doing at each stage?
Do I know who the candidates are and what criteria are being used to evaluate them?
Which finalist has the strongest track record of serving our Scouts, our families, and our unit-level leaders?
Each of you should be asking these questions—and insisting on clear answers.
In closing, I urge every member of the Executive Board to take this responsibility to heart. Do not simply defer to tradition or internal pressure. Make the choice that truly benefits those we serve. Above all, remember that your ultimate loyalty must be to the youth, families, and unit-level volunteers, and the spirit of the Scouting movement itself.
Sincerely,
Aren Cambre
“B.-P.’s Outlook: The Hang of the Thing”, The Scouter, July 1921. ↩︎
Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, May 2024, p. 17. The second sentence of the Local Council Scout Executive and/or Chief Executive Officer section describes how a council may “hire a candidate who would not otherwise be eligible for the position”. In this case, “not otherwise be eligible” mainly means someone who is not a commissioned professional. ↩︎
Ibid. Per the last sentence of the Local Council Scout Executive and/or Chief Executive Officer section, the “council Scout executive or chief executive officer shall serve at the pleasure of the local council’s executive board”. ↩︎
In defense of this rebrand, BSA clams it grew by about 16,000 members.2Truth: BSA probably shrank!
BSA’s 2024 shrinkage
When BSA gives its annual member count, it’s using the count as of December 31. That day is probably BSA’s high-water mark.3
Comparing 2024’s member count to 2023, BSA shows 16,000-member growth. However, the 2024 number isn’t clean, affected by novel accounting tricks:
Apples-to-oranges comparison: BSA declined to account for changes induced by a new membership model.4
Keeping dropped-out members on the roll longer: In late fall 2024, BSA extended the lapsed-member5 period by 50%6.
These tricks skewed accounting for youth who dropped out shortly after joining in fall 2023.
In the prior membership model, these youth would have dropped off the membership roll on March 1, 2024. Thanks to BSA’s accounting tricks, these new, fall-2023 Scouts who quickly dropped out stay on the roll ten months longer, now past December 31, 2024!
I estimate this to be 29,000 Scouts. This means 29,000 Scouts, who are included in the December 31, 2024 count, wouldn’t have been included under the prior membership scheme!
After removing 29,000 youth from the 2024 count, instead of 16,000-member growth, you get a 13,000-member loss (1.3%)!
On May 7, 2024, BSA announced its new Scouting America (SA) brand. National marketers advised that “[SA] should be used immediately”.7 The same day, BSA issued revised brand guidelines8 to help maximize SA across the movement.
The main thing accomplished is removing “boy” from the corporate brand to “ensure that everyone feels welcome in Scouting”9.
This isn’t solving a problem! The main way people know Scouting is through awareness of what local Scout units do. Some may be aware of the program names, especially Cub Scouts. None of this involves gendered words!
The gendered word is only in a distant corporate name. Few seem to know or track this name.
“Boy” is probably not a problem…
I’m not convinced “boy”, in a distant corporate name, is a problem.
I have yet to encounter a single girl, who is a realistic candidate for a BSA program, who declined to engage due to “boy” in a distant corporate name.
I have yet to see any evidence-based analysis asserting how the corporate name is an issue.
I created a Dull Men’s Club group on Facebook. It has almost 1.5 million members. About a third are women. Did “Men’s” drive them away?
I tested my Dull Men’s Club theory with a poll. With about 8,000 responses, women are saying, in an overwhelming, 99:1 ratio, that “men’s” in the group name is not a concern.
The M in YMCA means “men’s”. Is the YMCA perceived as excluding females?10
…but let’s pretend “boy” is a problem
Let’s suppose “boy” is a problem. The solution is easy: Adopt “BSA” as the corporate brand!
If an initialism works for the YMCA, it can work for us, too.
The SA brand’s effect on recruitment
If “boy” in the corporate name was noxious, then eliminating it would have helped recruitment, right?
Before I continue, I want to be clear: correlation is not causation. While 2024’s peak-recruitment period corresponds to first-time use of the SA brand, we cannot use simple math to say that SA caused any changes in recruitment.
However, if SA fixed a major problem with recruitment or perception, we should see a significant recruitment boost.
Recruitment was down in 2024. Compared to 2023, SA recruited 6.3% fewer Scouts11:
2023 new-Scout recruitment: 298,939 Scouts
2024 new-Scout recruitment: 279,994 Scouts
Why did we rebrand?
It’s unclear how the SA brand creates value:
The “boy” in the old corporate brand was not noxious.
The SA brand is not associated with increased recruitment.
As is its habit, our national organization fiddles while Scouting burns. The SA brand appears to be magical thinking, that shiny objects can save us, therefore allowing us to once again avoid addressingdifficultchallengesthatBSAneveracknowledges.
Appendix A: Monthly recruitment breakdown
Below are the number of new Scouts recruited each month of 2023 and 2024. All boldfaced months are on or after the SA brand was introduced.
2023
2024
difference
January
10521
9867
-6.2%
February
14104
12580
-10.8%
March
19130
12550
-34.4%
April
12251
11202
-8.6%
May
11627
8596
-26.1%
June
10966
9564
-12.8%
July
10438
7452
-28.6%
August
31442
30540
-2.9%
September
75104
77170
2.8%
October
53225
44942
-15.6%
November
26632
21322
-19.9%
December
23499
34209
45.6%
Total (June – December)
242933
233795
-3.8%
Total
298939
279994
-6.3%
Monthly count of youth who first joined BSA, indicated by “new, paid” membership status.
Despite its new brand, described later in this article, the corporate name remains Boy Scouts of America. ↩︎
Under the fixed-membership scheme that existed before August 1, 2023, most individuals’ membership periods coincided with the calendar year. Therefore, December 31’s member count generally included those who were a member at any point in that calendar year. January 1 was when most non-renewed memberships went to “lapsed” status, and March 1 is when most non-renewed, lapsed members were dropped. A minority of members have membership periods that are offset from the calendar year. While those offset memberships might affect the date of the high-water mark, I’ll bet a $2 bill the number would be very close to the December 31 count. ↩︎
On August 1, 2023, BSA switched to a rolling-membership scheme, where one’s membership period ends 12 months after joining. Before then, all members were on a fixed-membership scheme, where each person’s membership period was tied to their Scout unit’s annual renewal cycle. For most people, that corresponded to the calendar year. ↩︎
When a person’s BSA membership expires, that person’s membership is “lapsed”. This is a grace period between expiration and being formally dropped. In this lapsed period, the member is still treated like a paid member. BSA includes lapsed members in its count of total members. ↩︎
In an October 29, 2024 presentation titled National Town Hall (page 21), a BSA national employee asserts that the lapsed period is “extend[ed] … to 3 months”. Before then, it was two months. ↩︎
Some allege that YMCA switched to “The Y”. In fact, the “YMCA” brand remains prominent. In my area, “YMCA” is typically how it’s described. ↩︎
Numbers on newly recruited Scouts are discerned by filtering an SA report to Scouts with “new, paid” status. Renewing Scouts have a different status. ↩︎
Except for the best-run Venturing crews, BSA’s mainline programs facilitate an unhealthy fixation on advancement.
Distracting from adventure, this creates an unwelcoming environment for youth uninterested in advancement and encourages negative perceptions of youth who do not achieve terminal ranks.
Whether a youth member is interested in advancement should be irrelevant to that youth’s enjoyment of a BSA program.
Part of this is cultural, where by overcoming the fixation on advancement we can more easily appreciate youth experiences different than those that are advancement-seeking. Part of this can be achieved by refactoring advancement at all levels so that it prescribes a robust adventure program, leading to achievement as a natural result of active participation.
The main thing adults remember about their Scouting experience? Kick-ass adventures with friends.
When we facilitate kick-ass adventures with friends, youth will want our program, youth will stick with it.
BSA is in a crowded market. Other organizations also instill positive values in youth. BSA’s main differentiator is a robust adventure program. Everything we do must be in the context of adventure.
Adventure can come in many forms. A Tiger Cub (first grade) field trip to a grocery store may be an adventure! Generally, adventures should be outdoor as much as feasible. All should appropriately challenge the youth.
In 2017, Scouting America (SA) pulled a sexist scam. After falsely claiming equity and inclusion, SA foisted a separate-but-equal regime on Scouting. It did this to appease misogynists.
The crown jewel of SA’s regime is the linked-troop sham. The linked-troop sham’s sole point is to maximize gendered segregation.
Enter Wood Badge, a great adult-training program. As I write this, SA’s national organization is running a Wood Badge course at SBR. (SBR is SA’s monument to bigotry.)
SA took a shit on this Wood Badge course, using it to showcase the linked-troop sham. That’s why it’s the Linked-Troop Wood Badge course.
It’s tragic that SA defiled Wood Badge. But it did. That shit has some nasty stank, so so let’s talk about it.
Background
When SA first accepted girls in its Cub Scout and Scouts BSA programs, many believed claims that SA was becoming inclusive and serving families better. That was gaslighting.1 SA was actually doing shady shit on the sly.
The shady shit was how SA included manosphere-grifter logic in its decision-making. This logic manifested with how girls were “included” under a gendered, separate-but-equal regime. This was done so that SA could take care of the feelings of misogynists.
To enact this separate-but-equal regime, SA abandoned these:
Scout-unit self-determination on single-gender vs. coed
The separate-but-equal regime’s crown jewel is the linked-troop sham. Under that sham, boy troops and girl troops may “link”, allowing them to share some administrative resources and do limited activities together.12
Due to SA’s gaslighting, this sham is widely misunderstood as SA’s interim state, buying time for it to offer a coed option.
The opposite is true. The linked-troop sham is a brief, interim step to full gendered segregation. In response to wide misunderstanding, SA representatives haughtily mansplained that coed will “never” happen13 and, dripping with disdain14, lectured that the “ultimate goal with the linked-troop [sham]” was that boys and girls are ripped apart, with their respective, mono-gender troops “identify[ing] as separate entities”15.
SA’s separate-but-equal regime, and the regime’s linked-troop sham, rest entirely on misinformation and toxic, racist, and sexist folklore.16 Despite this, SA’s representatives have made multiple public statements where they clownishly and falsely claim rationality.17
Separate-but-equal regime: SA’s hug of misogynists
Misogynists’ voices do not belong in SA, especially not while SA was planning how to accommodate girls!
Former Chief Scout Executive18 (CSE) Michael Surbaugh felt differently. He gave misogynists a powerful platform at the 2017 National Annual Meeting.
The National Annual Meeting (NAM) is SA’s most important annual meeting. NAM 2017 wasn’t wasn’t any old NAM. NAM 2017 is where inclusion of girls was the main topic!19
In his NAM 2017 keynote speech, Michael laid out plans to accommodate girls. His lead in was a big ole bear hug to misogynists, saying that their views are “something we have to wrestle with”. He shared how some misogynists felt “the worst thing we could possibly do is to allow young women to get the Eagle rank”, how other misogynists think the “integrity of that Eagle rank” depends on denying access to girls, and more misogynistic trash.20
Here’s the video of Michael’s awful remarks (skip to 24:54):
By airing misogynists’ concerns at a crucial moment, Michael validated them and revealed their power. This speech was Michael’s admission of how sexism is woven into the national organization’s cultural fabric. (Sexism is a component of SA’s culturalrot, which I talkaboutelsewhere.)
After honoring misogynists, Michael dried their tears, appeasing them with the separate-but-equal regime (starts at 26:20 in above video).21
The regime is fueled by folklore and misinformation
The main idea driving the separate-but-equal regime is SA’s dunderheaded theory, that adolescent maturity is reducible to pubertal stage. In a “hold my beer” moment, SA extended its dunderheaded theory to slander an entire class of youth: SA’s official line is that since some girls hit puberty earlier than boys, adolescent girls as a class are venomous harridans who “disadvantage” the entire class of weak, fragile boys.22
Here’s the problem: Maturity has many factors, not just pubertal stage.23 Maturity is highly individualized. There is no evidentiary basis that boys and girls have catastrophic maturity differences at any age.
Regardless, SA “protects” boys with the separate-but-equal regime’s ban on coed dens and troops. With boys and girls ripped apart, venomous-harridans girls cannot “disadvantage” the weak, fragile boys.
While the dunderheaded theory was the start, SA went much further. In doing so, SA revealed that its separate-but-equal regime rests entirely on a corpus of misinformation and folklore.24
SA’s corpus of misinformation and folklore includes weird theories about adolescent maturity25, sexist folklore26, alignment with racist adultification27, questionable sources28, an absurd theory on relationships29, an absurd theory on which gender is advantaged30, folklore about gendered learning differences31, open sexism and misogyny32, a likely lie about another Scouting organization’s experience with coed33, and disparagement of families and volunteers34.
Rationality was never SA’s priority. The fix was in from the start: Michael Surbaugh decided that misogynists’ feelings must be protected, above all else. Therefore, the point of SA’s corpus of misinformation and folklore was to concoct a fiction of rationality, to obscure the misogynist hugging.
SA used the playbook of manosphere grifters. To appease insecure males, these grifters misuse research35 to reinforce clownish, masculine stereotypes by “distort[ing] biology and evolution” while advocating for “deny[ing] rights and respect to women, trans and nonbinary people”36.
Many saw past SA’s absurdity. Some succeeded in liberating themselves from the regime!
The regime was easy to flout in Cub Scouts
Cub Scout leaders widely flouted SA’s separate-but-equal regime. Cub Scout packs that accepted girls largely ran coed dens.37
It was easy to openly provide coed experiences in Cub Scouts. The sheer amount of coed contributed to Cub Scouts’ partial liberation from the separate-but-equal regime. But it’s harder in Scouts BSA.
…but hard to ditch in Scouts BSA
While many coed Scouts BSA troops exist, they have a harder time, which suppresses their openness.
Coed troops fight through more challenges, such as a four-deep rule for adult leaders39, fractured vision due to redundant Scoutmasters40, redundant youth leadership41, and more.
Also, anachronistic, counterfactual notions on how adolescents relate to each other are common in Scouting.42 Some of these anachronisms overlap matters governed by SA’s youth-protection rules.
Youth-protection rules are held in high regard. This is good! The viability of Scouting hinges on effective youth protection. Yet coed troops, in moving past anachronisms, must navigate gray areas not clearly covered by youth-protection rules. Sometimes they must adopt practices that, while likely as effective as sanctioned practices, do not follow the letter of the law.
Altogether, artificial barriers to coed troops and a lack of transparency on their existence suppresses perceived desire for coed troops. This reduces pressure on SA to liberate Scouts BSA from its separate-but-equal regime.
Enter the perfidious National Scouts BSA Committee
Further suppressing liberation is the perfidy of the National Scouts BSA Committee (NSBC), the committee that oversees43 the Scouts BSA program.
In a mansplaining storm, the NSBC’s chairman cracks sexist jokes.44
NSBC members joined national bureaucrats in displaying arrogance and hostility to the base.45
NSBC members joined national bureaucrats in using folklore and misinformation to slander girls as a class.46
The NSBC’s disdain of the base is entrenched. Years after SA kicked off its sexist scam, the committee hadn’t lifted a finger to help the base47:
In a Sept. 7, 2023 Reddit comment, a member of the National Scouts BSA Committee publicly leaked the committee’s “let them eat cake” disdain of the base.
At the time of this Reddit comment, SA kicked off its sexist scam 6.3 years prior, and the Scouts BSA program had been subjugated by the separate-but-equal regime for 4.8 years!
Broad discontent with the regime would have been readily apparent to anyone who’s alive and breathing. But when a committee doesn’t care about the base, it doesn’t listen to them.
The NSBC is awash in perfidy.
The only clear evidence of the NSBC cosplaying usefulness starts in May 2024, when SA put this committee in charge of something big.
This “something big” may be more gaslighting.
Laughably stupid coed-troop pilot proves SA still loves misogynists
At the May 2024 NAM, SA finally admitted its sexist scam is wearing thin. It announced a lengthy coed-troop pilot, to be run by the National Scouts BSA Committee.48
This was an empty gesture. If SA wanted to do right, it instead would:
Immediately liberate all from the separate-but-equal regime, deleting the regime in its entirety.
Apologize for the regime.
Discipline all national professionals and volunteers who betrayed Scouting to support misogynists.
Instead of doing right, SA continues to hug misogynists by delaying a decision on liberation. Coincidentally, delay is is the main point of SA’s pilots.
SA’s pilots are trash
In the real world, pilots are smart. They uncover findings, via a live test of a proposed change, that would be difficult to know in advance.
I have yet to uncover any recent SA-pilot finding that 1. wouldn’t have been discernable, in advance, by an informed person or 2. could have been an easy course correction later. For example, while late-2010s pilots were run for girl troops and girl dens, every last part of BSA’s Family Scouting Questions and Answers, which laid out the separate-but-equal regime, would have been predictable by an experienced adult leader who had seen Michael Surbaugh’s 2017 NAM misogynist-appeasement speech, which preceded the pilots.
Some pilot programs have no findings! For example, the yearlong pilot of coed Cub Scouts dens49 had no findings50.
SA’s pilots are trash. Mere bureaucratic-stalling exercises, they simply delay change.
SA’s laughably stupid coed-troop pilot is trash
When SA admitted its sexist scam is wearing thin, it announced a long delay before any possible liberation: The NSBC-run coed-troop pilot will run through July 2025.51
This is just another trash pilot. It has no proper end. There’s nothing to learn!
Coed has been normal in USA society for well over a century.52 All of SA’s international peers programs are coed.53 SA already has over 56 years of coed experience, mainly in its high-school programs.54 Unofficial pilots of coed troops have been ongoing55 since girls were first admitted to Scouts BSA in February 201956. Everything SA need to know to navigate coed, it’s already at its fingertips!
Without a proper end, what goal is the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot seeking?
Coed-troop pilot goal 1: prolong misogynist appeasement
With the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot, SA pretends that girls are a weird, novel entity who need 14 more months of careful study. Because, you know, SA’s 56 years of experience with coed wasn’t enough.
That is absurd! It’s line 3 from hymn 231, “How Great Manosphere Grifters Art”.
This validates that the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot is doing the customary SA-pilot thing, kicking the can down the road. At a minimum, it extends SA’s misogynist-appeasement period by 14 more months.
This buys time for the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot’s more insidious goal.
Coed-troop pilot goal 2: hug misogynists by hobbling reform
That Surbaugh felt it important to appease misogynists demonstrates they had a lock on SA’s national organization in 2017. I have zero evidence that SA has pushed them away. In fact, for reasons I cannot get into (I cannot say more without violating confidentiality of my sources), SA’s misogynists may now be more powerful than in 2017.
If SA was to liberate Scouting from the separate-but-equal regime, that would be a slap in the face to SA’s misogynist friends. Liberating Scouting from the regime invalidates misogynists’ feelings!
To minimize hurting feelings of its misogynist friends, SA must obstruct reform. The best way to obstruct reform? Put an anti-reformer in charge of assessing the reform.
That’s the why I theorize SA put a perfidious entity, the NSBC, in charge of the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot.
The National Scouts BSA Committee has never distanced itself from perfidy. The NSBC has never apologized for its transgressions. It has never repudiated its errors. It has never disavowed its sexism. It has never committed to do what’s best for the base. It has never been transparent.57 Its members still promote the linked-troop sham to this day! We can only expect the NSBC’s perfidy to continue.
Continued NSBC perfidy means more warped data, more lies about girls, more cherry-picking research, more weird theories about pusillanimous boys being “disadvantaged” by venomous-harridan girls, more ignoring the base.
Given this, we should expect the NSBC to twist the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot’s findings in ways that build on its corpus of misinformation and folklore. We should expect the NSBC to yet again advance manosphere nonsense, just to help SA hug its misogynist friends.
Summed up, the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot is likely a ruse. SA is probably, once again, setting the stage for more gaslighting.
The laughably stupid coed-troop pilot will likely lead to…
…a phony liberation…
I think the most likely outcome is SA will once again gaslight everyone.
It will have a splashy announcement of Scouting’s liberation from the separate-but-equal regime. When national bureaucrats should be apologizing to us, they will instead pat themselves on the back, acting as if our liberation from their blunder is an incredible achievement.
Likely armed with warped findings from the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot, SA will do shady shit on the sly, retaining key anachronistic gendered rules or standards.
In other words, SA will likely obstruct clean liberation from its sexist scam. Instead, it will likely cling to substantial parts of the scam.
…or retention of the sexist scam…
Full retention of the sexist scam is a possibility. Remember, SA’s misogynists probably still have a lock on the organization. They don’t want to be slapped.
This hinges on how far the NSBC goes with its distortion of the laughably stupid coed-troop pilot.
…or a full liberation?
I wish this would happen, but it’s unlikely.
A full liberation would mean full deletion of SA’s sexist scam. All arbitrary, gendered standards would evaporate.
That’s it! It’s simple. It’s clean. It’s fast. But it slaps misogynists in the face. That is why I lean against SA doing this.
In the end, SA needs leadership to overcome its sexism. That requires leadership from an organization beset by a decades-long leadership vacuum. Don’t get your hopes up.
Back to the Linked-Troop Wood Badge
Those of you at the Linked-Troop Wood Badge, I am sorry.
I am sorry SA is forcing you to sing an opera written by manosphere grifters.
I am sorry SA forces you to cosplay a fiction, that girls are venomous harridans and boys are weak and fragile.
I am sorry your Wood Badge session was warped by misinformation and folklore.
I am sorry SA warped your course to validate its misogynist friends.
I am sorry.
Wood Badge is a good program. Look past SA’s sexism, and apply Wood Badge’s valuable lessons to your life and to Scouting.
Silver lining?
SA’s national CEO, Roger Krone, is attending this Wood Badge as a participant!
This would be a great opportunity for him to send a shot across the bow and announce immediate liberation!
Will Roger be be brave? Will Roger demonstrate leadership? Or will we get more of SA’s sexist scam?
I would love to be wrong
I would love to be wrong!
If anyone can point to me evidence that the National Scouts BSA Committee has openly rejected its perfidy, or that SA has openly committed to cleanly liberate the movement from its sexist scam, drop a comment!
Scouts BSA Web Conference March 2021. At 29:30, the National Scouts BSA Committee chair cuts off another presenter to mansplain that “nobody” supports coed, then cracks a sexist joke, and then conveys likely false information about Venturing and other countries’ Scouting programs, then concludes that coed troops are “not happening” and that you can “take [my haughty mansplaining] to the bank”. ↩︎
This was plainly obvious in social-media Cub Scout leader forums and in my in-person observations. ↩︎
Due to SA’s poor program design, the jump from Cub Scouts to Scouts BSA is jarring, corresponding to about a 25% year-over-year membership loss. The national organization, preferring inertia over integrity, is unmotivated to fix program-design problems. Instead, SA clings to a fantasy that the 5th grade Cub Scout year is a good transition to Scouts BSA. Ergo, since Scouts BSA falls under the separate-but-equal regime, SA declined to liberate 5th grade Cub Scouts from regime. ↩︎
Because SA treats the girl troop and boy troop as separate troops, each troop must separately meet the two-deep rule for adult leadership. Therefore, troops unofficially running as coed operations must have four-deep leadership. ↩︎
The boy troop and girl troop each must supply its own Scoutmaster. This is by design. SA poisoned the well to induce conflicts and burdens that interfere with a harmonious, single operation. ↩︎
Theoretically, each troop is to have its own Patrol Leaders Council. This leads to ridiculous arrangements, such as coed troops having both a male and a female Senior Patrol Leader. This is by design. SA poisoned the well to induce conflicts and burdens that interfere with a harmonious, single operation. ↩︎
This is a qualitative statement, based on my experience in the program. But it comes out in objective ways from time to time. The amateur folk psychology of Scoutmaster Pete in On My Honor (Jay Mechling, 2001) is an example. Pete’s amateur psychology seems to get some things right, but he has some major misses. So is the bizarre theory, advanced by the national organization, that males and females are bifuracted by their use of categorically different ways to build relationships, reviewed more in The case for equity and inclusion: Ending BSA’s specious coed ban (Aren Cambre, November 2022) in the “Poor application of questionable theory” section. ↩︎
The testimony of several insiders affirm that national program committees are mostly do-nothing puppets of the bureaucracy. They are extraordinarily secretive to hide how little they do and how misaligned they are with the base they serve. While some committees have a few capable members, those people’s effectiveness is attenuated by how SA neuters committees by stacking them with passive loyalists. ↩︎
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bravescouters/posts/2426021844249879. In this video excerpt, the chair of the National Scouts BSA Committee, in the middle of a mansplaining lecture about the separate-but-equal regime and its linked-troop sham. is a sexist joke. The “truth behind this joke” is that wives should be subservient to husbands. ↩︎
Scouts BSA Web Conference March 2021. At 29:30, the National Scouts BSA Committee chair interrupts another presenter to mansplain that “nobody” supports coed, then cracks a sexist joke (same as in above footnote), and then conveys likely false information about Venturing and other countries’ Scouting programs, then concludes that coed troops are “not happening” and that you can “take [my mansplaining] to the bank”. ↩︎
Again, only through 4th grade. 5th graders are forced back into the separate-but-equal regime. ↩︎
The June 1, 2023 cancellation of the separate-but-equal regime for grades K-4 was accompanied by no new rules, new standards, or program changes. This is strong evidence that the yearlong pilot had no useful findings. ↩︎
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